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= Archive =
== Greetings ==
# [[/Archive1|Nov 2003]]
I have a query and since I'm still rather new to the world of Wikipedia, it will most likely be a rather daft one. So, my question is this : Since Malaysia has it's own version of the encyclopedia (called Ensiklopedia Sejarah dan Kebudayaan Melayu), would it not be possible to use some of its entries here (with permission from DBP of course)?
--[[Pengguna:Zlene|Ena]] 08:31, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
= Perbualan =
Any question is welcome. Please note that Wikipedia ia using GNU Free Documentation License which is not compatible with ordinary copyright. Please read [ copyrights] in English Wikipedia, as to translate the page is beyond my capacity at the moment :). If they (DBP), however, agreed to donate those material, it will be most welcome :)). Please get DBP agreement in writing as to prevent any legal issues later. [[Pengguna:Yosri|Yosri]] 09:20, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
== Archived (uncategorized) talk ==
== New look ==
Isn't it rather confusing to have some french text? Surely less Malay speakers know French than English. Unfortunately, I cannot speak Malay, but I am nevertheless keen to see this wiki grow. Imran William Smith, [[User:|]] 06:40, 31 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Just keeping this section around as a reminder that we still need to clean up the main page.
:English main page was block for editing, so I cannot copy the format. The next best is French which I trying my best to translate to Malay. But this will take time as I have precious little time to do this
So far, our test pages are
# [[Laman Utama/Test1]]
# [[Laman Utama/Test2]]
# [[Laman Utama/Test3]]
== Commmons ==
:: Don't worry about the protected page, you can still check out their source text, here [ to view its source]. :) --[[User:Samuel|Samuel]] 04:06, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Folks, there's a convenient new feature you should know about. On the wikipedia commons []] it is possible to upload pictures to be shared wikipedia projects. You don't need to do anything special to use a commons picture. Just use your Image tag as if it were already on the Malay wikipedia. For example, see [[Manatee]]. All the pictures there are from commons. What does this mean for you? No more transfering pictures from en to ms! Just use the commons! :-)
Unfortunately, however, not all the en pictures are on the commons yet. If you want to transfer pictures, please transfer them to commons and not ms, so that you save everybody else the effort. -- [[Pengguna:Kowey|Kowey]] 09:37, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
==Proposal to unify the Malay and Indonesian wikipedia==
See [[Wikipedia:Proposal_to_unify]]
== Greeting ==
Hi, greeting here, happy to find out this new version of Wiki, I've been working for Chinese wikipedia for some time, hope I can help. In addition, try to localize this wiki by editing MediaWiki. Check out [ here] && [ here for more info]. :) Enjoy! --[[User:Samuel|Samuel]] 04:06, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)
:Welcome Samuel! I'm very happy to see so many new faces lately. For the time being, we are using [[meta:LanguageMs.php]] and [[meta:Talk:LanguageMs.php]] to do localisation, but as you can see, I have created the localisation table and will eventually ask for sysop status so that me and Yosri can directly edit the messages. Thanks for letting us know about this. -- [[User:Kowey|Kowey]] 10:11, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)
What does the following text mean?
:''Segala bentuk rencana akademik amat dialu-alukan. Elakkan penggunaan perkataan yang remeh-temeh seperti "zhdhd", "Hi...", dan "I love xxxx." (bahasa rojak tidak digalakkan.) Anda digalakkan membuat percubaan di [[Wikipedia:Kotak pasir|kotak pasir]] untuk mempelajari bagaimana anda boleh menyunting sebarang rencana sekarang.''
It seems to say something like "ygxjgre," contributions are not welcome or will be deleted. While this is certainly true, maybe it'll be a little more profesional not to say it outright? That is, i think we should focus on the positive side of this project -- [[Pengguna:Kowey|Kowey]] 09:20, 2 Mac 2004 (UTC)
:Hi Kowey, I also think the expression is a bit out of place. Can we remove it since the sentence, "<i>segala bentuk rencana akademik...dll</i>" is already self-explanatory? We can still retain the "<i>Anda digalakkan membuat percubaan...dll</i>" bit.[[Pengguna:Dekoelie|Dekoelie]] 10:02, 2 Mac 2004 (UTC)
:: I agree. I will do it. Let me know if you disagree, Yosri -- [[Pengguna:Kowey|Kowey]] 10:51, 2 Mac 2004 (UTC)
:::Frankly I feel Malay user is a bit immature and not yet grasp the consept and goal of WIkipedia. Some of the remark make me blushed. But then, I believe the number of Wikipedian is sufficent to police the Wikipedia now, unlike last time.[[Pengguna:Yosri|Yosri]] 11:05, 2 Mac 2004 (UTC)
== Date started? ==
"Versi Bahasa Melayu bermula pada 12 Ogos Jan 2003" . Hope someone can correct on this. [[Pengguna:Bwood|Bwood]] 16:10, 9 Mac 2004 (UTC)
Based on "Versi Bahasa Melayu bermula (08:15, 28 Jan 2003).[[Pengguna:Yosri|Yosri]] 01:15, 10 Mac 2004 (UTC)
== New look? ==
I propose we adopt a new, cleaner look for the front page. Something like the one on [[:en:]] would be nice, but we don't have enough mass for that yet. Maybe the version on [[:fr:]] would be good, or the version that [[:simple:]] use. [[:simple:]] might be an especially good choice for wikipedias of small size.
: I second that! I'd vote for simple's format...especially like the clean verdana font used there. [[Pengguna:Dekoelie|Dekoelie]] 14:17, 16 Mac 2004 (UTC)
: I'd second that too! Clean looks would be good. And possibly with color scheme that looks Malaysian. Ie, Malaysian flag scheme or something. [[Pengguna:Bwood|Bwood]] 00:30, 17 Mac 2004 (UTC)
: Why a Malaysian theme? No offence, but Bahasa Melayu is not exclusive only to Malaysians. [[Pengguna:Dekoelie|Dekoelie]] 00:45, 17 Mac 2004 (UTC)
::I agreed. The Bahasa Melayu should be International page open to all Malay speakers regardless of their country or origin. We have Malay speakers in South Afrika, China, and Russia. They also can play a part in contributing to Bahasa Melayu. However, I propose to keep the current format because the navigation is more clear for new user. I got lost in (en) page.[[Pengguna:Yosri|Yosri]] 01:08, 17 Mac 2004 (UTC)
::Agree on that. What I meant was an exclusive color scheme for Malay wikipedia. Even though we have Malay speaker all over the world, the largest of the speaker would be in Malaysia. (Indonesia uses Bahasa Melayu also, but I realised Bahasa Indonesia would be fitting for Indonesia). For navigation, I prefer navigation format like in English wikipedia, where the main wikipedia content is highlighted. I think there shouldn't be any font style though. Some browser may not support different font face, and this may caused problem when user choose different theme in user preference [[Pengguna:Bwood|Bwood]] 02:47, 17 Mac 2004 (UTC)
:::If we were to take up English Wiki's style, it would mean that someone has to be tasked to do up articles on the latest news, today in history etc on a regular basis. Do we have enough resources (no. of users, articles) to do that? As for format, I still think we should go for [[:simple:]]'s. Like what Kowey said, it's suitable for small volume Wikis like ours.
:::Bwood, I just hope that <i>Malaysianizing</i> the colour scheme would not lead to other developments like changing 'Bahasa Melayu' to 'Bahasa Malaysia' etc. <i>(I know... i worry too much.. =p)</i> [[Pengguna:Dekoelie|Dekoelie]] 03:30, 17 Mac 2004 (UTC)
: I have no opinion on the colour scheme, but here are two test pages we can play with: [[Laman Utama/Test]] and [[Laman Utama/Test2]]. We'll try to use the messages at [[Template:Wikipediatoc]] and [[Template:Wikipedialang]] to avoid duplicating work. We should also find a shorter way to say all the stuff on these test pages. I would really like the front page to be as short and sweet as possible. Have fun! -- [[Pengguna:Kowey|Kowey]] 12:39, 17 Mac 2004 (UTC)
:: I have designed a 3rd main page: [[Laman Utama/Test3]] -- [[Pengguna:Zaim|Zaim]] 30 Jun 2004
: Yes, the current one is rather cluttered. --[[Pengguna:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] 14:09, 17 Mac 2004 (UTC)
I'm sorry for changing the front page look before consulting anybody. Please change or remove the image if you think it makes the front page messier. [[Pengguna:Khairul Khalid|Khairul Khalid]] 18:44, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
:: Is the picture supposed to resemble a world map or something? [[Pengguna:Dekoelie|Dekoelie]] 00:41, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
==Latest To Do==
Based on the above discussions, I'm proposing some new tasks (or re-listing old ones) for the Main Page. In no particular order:
* New layout (Check out [[Laman Utama/Test]], [[Laman Utama/Test2]], [[Laman Utama/Test3]])
* Work on the introduction text (make it shorter, more precise and uncluttered)
* Create/work on templates (for the various sections within the main page):
** [[Template:Isi kandungan|Isi kandungan]]
** [[Template:Masyarakat|Masyarakat]]
** [[Template:Rencana pilihan|Rencana pilihan]] (featured article)
** [[Template:Hal semasa|Hal semasa]] (in the news)
So let's discuss as much as possible and implement as soon as possible.
-- [[Pengguna:Zaim|Zaim]] 02:30, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
:Hi, just making a quick visit to see how ms.wikipedia is doing. I thought maybe I could call some attention back to making over the front page. Test3 looks pretty good, although the bottom seems a bit heavy. Could we do something to tidy up that bottom part and then use it to replace the front page? -- [[Pengguna:Kowey|Kowey]]
Jom ke kedai kopi, jom.
[[Pengguna:Yosri|Yosri]] 03:37, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
== pergerakan ==
== peranan bahasa kebangsaan ==
bahasa kebangsaan penting untuk menyatupadkan rakyat yang berl\bilang kaum di Malaysia.