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Wikipedia:Penyelia/Pengundian/Arctic Kangaroo sebagai penyelia 6 Ogos 2013

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Arctic Kangaroo (Perbualan • Sumbangan • Statistik • Akaun Sejagat)

Diusulkan oleh Arctic Kangaroo (sendiri)
Jumlah suntingan 1,706 setakat 14:35 6 Ogos 2013 (UTC)
Mekanisme

Waktu pengundian:

  • Pengundian bermula pada 6 Ogos 2013.
  • Dapat berakhir paling cepat pada 13 Ogos 2013 (1 minggu) sekiranya terdapat minimum 14 undian sah.
  • Berakhir selewat-lewatnya pada 20 Ogos 2013 (2 minggu).

Undian minimum untuk dilantik menjadi Penyelia:

  • Pengguna yang mengundi minimum sebanyak 10 pengguna.
  • Persetujuan diperlukan sebanyak 70% daripada jumlah undian yang diberikan oleh pengguna.

Semua pengguna berdaftar boleh mengundi. Pengguna berdaftar yang dimaksudkan ialah yang telah memenuhi tiga syarat berikut sebelum pengundian bermula:

  • berumur (suntingan pertama) minimum seminggu,
  • mempunyai minimum 15 suntingan,
  • bukan pengguna boneka.
Pengundian lalu

Kenyataan calon sunting

First off, this statement is a little long, so I hope you can bear with me, spend some time to read and understand this statement. Also, I apologise for having to write this statement in English. OK, I think many of you, upon seeing this RfA, will be thinking "You still don't know Malay, so do you know what are you doing?!".

1. Let me address the most important issue first: Language. In my previous RfA, many of you highlighted that language is a very important thing. There are many articles here needing translation from English to Malay, and knowing the language will also enable me to fix grammatical errors. One of my goals here, is to help expand this wiki, create many articles, and help with content creation. But well, I'm also busy with my exams now, so have not much time to learn Malay. My plan is, after exams are over on 2 October, I will be learning Malay bit by bit through self-study every day. Hopefully as well, next year I can learn Malay as 3rd language. As for the place where I hope to learn it, I have heard from one of my cousins, who is taking Japanese there, that they teach in depth into the language until it gets so hard. And just to add, I'm not just learning Malay for this wiki, or passing this RfA, rather, it's because I'm interested.

2. Next, why I want to become a penyelia here? I have noticed that many users here are on serious wikibreaks for studying, and spend very little time here, although they would want to help much more. Aplikasi, Ma Hzi Wong, SNN95, and a few others are studying university. Then Ranking Update has returned to en.wiki. All the burden now falls onto Yosri, Aurora and Algazel, and I also hope to lessen the burden. With the burden lessened, it's not just a less tiring job for them; they can place even more focus on content too.

3. Then, still addressing question 2, I add another: What am I going to do? As already stated in my previous RfA, I want to help with the blocking of persistent vandals and deletion of inappropriate pages. In addition to that, I also hope to help with Laman Utama, especially the featured pictures, and (hopefully) DYK and featured articles.

4. Lastly, thank you for taking your time to read this statement and vote, whether it's support, oppose or neutral.

Soalan untuk calon sunting

Hi Arctic, first off let me thank you for your help here and for your generous praise about my work, but I have some questions:

  1. Anda telah disekat tampa had masa di Wikipedia Inggeris. Isunya berkaitan Competence kerana anda tidak faham maksud lesen Creative Commons. Boleh saya tahu sama ada anda sudah faham Lesen CC?
  2. Sudah tentu anda sudah baca Syarat2 menjadi penyelia. Boleh anda tunjukkan kepelbagaian suntingan anda?
  3. Apa matlamat yang anda catat dalam "Kenyataan calon" anda yang tidak dapat anda lakukan tanpa akses penyelia?
  4. Kalau tak silap, anda telah gagal menjadi penyelia dalam undian yang dibuat 2~3 bulan dahulu (saya lupa). Kenapa beria-ia sangat nak jadi penyelia?

Please don't take these questions personally but I do need answers because my overaching aim as sysop is to protect ms-wiki. Thanks. --Algazel (bincang) 06:30, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Reply to 1: Generally understood better already. I will be reading more in depth when I'm free. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 06:37, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Reply to 4: Stated in candidate statement. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 06:39, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
I will reply 2 and 3 later. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 06:39, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

I might add that I also use the English guide to adminship as a reference. Because of this policy, by extension, birokrats can, I think, decline to appoint anyone from being sysop notwithstanding the votes garnered.

OK, I'll await a fuller answer|s from you. And I do mean good answers, not a glossing over. Take your time, we have plenty of time and pixel real estate. Again, I apologise for being "sticky". --Algazel (bincang) 06:58, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

I actually don't get what you mean. Perhaps you could name what details you want to know from answers 1 and 4? Cheers. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 11:08, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Reply to 2: Assuming you are asking for my edits in the various areas of ms.wiki as stated there, here they are. 1. On site discussion: Not much on articles, so far the only discussions are on user talk pages or Kedai Kopi. But I usually don't kpo too much on user talk page discussions, only once in a while. 2. Kedai Kopi: [1], [2], [3], [4] 3. Voting: [5] 4. Featured pictures/featured articles: Plenty for the former, 1 recent one for the latter 5. Articles, interwiki, add category: Created Plastingia naga and Mooreana trichoneura, both of which are created by me at en.wiki. As I write more articles, I will add those here if I feel they are appropriate. Hopefully, I can create articles directly in Malay here in future when I have mastered it. 6. Deletion and vandalism reverts: Plenty. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 11:23, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Reply to 3: All have been stated in Part 3 of the statement. Just to clarify if the last part of Part 3 is not clear, what I mean is like moving it to main page. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 11:28, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

If you have any further questions, just feel free to ask. I'm more than glad to clarify your doubts. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 11:28, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Further clarification needed sunting

English:

  1. Q1: You were blocked indefinitely at Commons and at wiki-en because of Competence issues. Can you explain why?
  2. Q3: What objectives in your mission statement can't you achieve without being a sysop?

I don't think pasting articles in English and having it/them translated into Malay by someone else counts as a meaningful contribution. A meaningful contribution would be to contribute/write an article in the language of the wiki. Posting comments don't count as a meaningful "contribution".

Reply Q1: It's actually related to me not understanding enough of the CC licence(s). When I uploaded some images to Commons, I did not do it with careful thought. I did not know that CC licences were not revokable, and also, with this being the first time releasing my images under a free licence, I did not know how severe its consequences are. The Commons block was mainly because of disruption, and well, I disagreed with many of them, as those were rather immoral. Even Jimbo Wales has said so. However of course, there are also some who know their morals, and argue fairly (even if it's against me). I don't think I wish to continue talking about the Commons block, as I have already stated there that I'm not bothered by it. And now onto the en.wiki block, it's all stated in the ANI thread you linked to. I believe you have already read it? Yet again, it's mainly because I did not fully understand the CC licence. Without going into further irrelevant details, I would like to say that I have learnt a lot from this incident. I have also already emailed ArbCom, asking them to unblock me. I believe they are probably discussing among themselves now. I hope these clarify your doubts. Selamat Hari Raya Aidilfitri. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 02:50, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
I have also understood more about the CC licence already. (forgot to mention above) Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 02:53, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Algazel, I see that you have opposed. It's your choice, your opinion, and I respect it. You are a valuable contributor and penyelia, anyway. But however, there are a few things I want you to know. I hope you can understand that I'm contributing here, helping with tasks, running for adminship, all out of goodwill. I don't wish you to see me as here wanting to cause harm, or being incompetent. Cheers. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 02:58, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Reply Q3: Although you have already voted, but I think that for courtesy reasons, I shall still respond to the other question. I hope to lessen the burden on the active admins now. I see that many users are inactive now, and Yosri, Aurora and you are all doing your best to contribute to the content and articles here. I can help them with some tasks, giving them more time to write content, and reducing their burden as penyelia. Even 1 second counts. As for you, I see you seem to be quite busy with real life, and have not much time to contribute. With the workload reduced, you can contribute more content with whatever little time you have. Over time, my Malay will strengthen bit by bit, until I can speak and/or write fluently. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 03:06, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Reply Q3 (more): Personally, I understand I don't contribute much content at the moment. However, I hope to be able to do more on content one day, ASAP. As such, I also want to contribute in more ways, like Laman Utama (which I can also help reduce Aurora's workload), as well as blocking and deletion (reduce some of mainly Yosri's workload). Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 03:09, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Just to highlight again, I have already understood the CC licence. The block at Commons does not bother me, while the en.wiki block is under review. Incompetence as a result of not understanding the licence is the only reason for the block. And because of that, I think the problem should be resolved soon. So please try not to oppose because of the blocks on other wikis. They are not related to ms.wiki. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 06:14, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  • (I'm sorry, I have probably put this in the wrong place, please someone move it to the right place for me.) I am the admin who blocked Arctic Kangaroo on en.wiki. I have been asked by email by two people to explain my block of Arctic Kangaroo in more detail. I do not wish to impose myself, and en.wiki standards, on your wiki, so I declined the first request, but after a second one, I've decided to explain briefly.
Essentially, it was not just a problem with understanding the CC license, although that was a big part of it. It was also not understanding (and disrupting) our Articles for Creation process (leading to a topic ban), and the way he handled himself during the discussions about these problems. This was not my judgement, it was the near-unanimous judgement of the discussion (linked by someone above). I just enacted the block. --Floquenbeam (bincang) 18:13, 11 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Hi there Floquenbeam, I don't blame you for the block. Even though you stained my block log (which I certainly don't like), but it's alright. I've read the valid explanation you posted on my talk page. In the email to ArbCom to appeal my block, I even told them that I did not blame you; you were doing the right thing by blocking me. In fact, it was a wake-up call for me. Ask Newyorkbrad to forward the email to you if you don't believe me. Cheers. =) (✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 13:53, 12 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
And don't worry, you posted it at the right place. (✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 15:15, 12 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Wait a minute..."disrupting the AfC process". I didn't "disrupt", everything was done in good faith. I only made mistakes, but I based on other reviewers' comments, do my best to improve, although I'm not perfect. Nobody is, anyway. (✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 15:19, 12 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

BM:

  1. Q1: Anda disekat tanpa had masa di Commons dan wiki-en disebabkan isu Kecekapan. Dapatkah anda terangkan kenapa?
  2. Q3: Apa matlamat yang anda catat dalam "Kenyataan calon" anda yang tidak dapat anda lakukan tanpa akses penyelia?
  3. Q3: Saudara kelihatan sangat beria-ria nak menjadi penyelia. Ini kali kedua saudara mencalonkan diri sendiri, namun masih ada yang menentang saudara kerana saudara kurang memahami Bahasa Melayu. Saya bukan nak mengata tapi, adakah saudara mahu menjadi penyelia kerana mahukan nama?

Saya tak fikir yang menampal rencana dalam bahasa Inggeris yang kemudian diterjemahkan oleh orang lain boleh dikira sebagai sumbangan bermakna. Sumbangan bermakna merupakan rencana yang disumbang/tulis dalam bahasa wiki itu. Menghantar ulasan tidak dikira sebagai "sumbangan" bermakna.

@JN's Q3: Nope. I'm here to serve and contribute. I'm not someone who aims for position. Being a penyelia means nothing, unless you can contribute something, although not necessarily articles and content. GP, featured articles, Kedai Kopi etc is also count as something. Cheers.
(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 13:49, 11 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Bagi saya, ketidakcekapan saudara membalas mesej saya dlm BM sudah membuktikan saudara bergelut untuk belajar tersebut. Saya mungkin akan dikira hipokrit kerana saudara menyokong saya berkali-kali ketika saya dicalonkan. Namun keputusan saya tidak akan berubah sehingga saudara boleh berupaya membalas KESEMUA mesej yang diberikan kepada saudara dalam BM. Maaf. JerichoNation (bincang) 14:35, 11 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Hey JN, I understand your concern. It's a valid reason, so I never blame you. Cheers. (✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 13:49, 12 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Undian sunting

Sokongan sunting

  1. Setuju- Sokong jelah. Saya ubah fikiran.--Rosmah Gwiyomi (bincang) 16:40, 11 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  2. Setuju - Saya pasti menyokong anda. Semoga berjaya menjadi penyelia.Apli kasi 14:40, 6 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
    Setuju Saya menyokong anda, semoga anda sentiasa sabar dalam bertugas di WBM!--Hanamanteo (bincang) 14:55, 6 Ogos 2013 (UTC) Mengundi dua kali. Undi awal dipotong. ...Aurora... (b) 15:00, 9 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  3. Setuju Albertus Aditya (bincang) 15:21, 6 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  4. Setuju,  ‹› Iwan Novirion™ Kirim Pesan   15:31, 6 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  5. Setuju--Minz48 (bincang) 15:49, 6 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  6. Setuju Arctic Kangaroo, saya selalu menyokong anda. Saya juga melihat anda sememangnya berusaha untuk membantu Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu berdasarkan sumbangan anda selama ini dan saya juga selalu memantau anda dan juga rakan-rakan lain di sini mahupun Wikipedia lain, walaupun sekarang saya sudah kurang melakukan sumbangan seperti waktu sebelumnya kerana kini lebih menumpukan tumpuan kepada beberapa "topik". Saya juga ada terlihat anda kini disekat di Wikipedia Bahasa Inggeris buat selama-lamanya hanya kerana masalah mengenai "imej", tapi itu tidak membuktikan anda tidak boleh membantu di Wikipedia lagi. Mengenai Bahasa Melayu anda saya juga faham tahap pemahaman anda masih lemah, tapi ianya masih boleh dipertingkatkan. Cheers! :) — иz нίpнόp ʜᴇʟᴘ! 16:52, 6 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  7. Setuju Ikut menyokong juga. --Erik Fastman (bincang) 17:59, 6 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  8. Setuju Saya ikut menyokong juga. --Powered by Tabloid Pulsa® (bincang) 22:15, 6 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  9. Setuju Saya menyokong ! Kamu mempunyai niat yang baik, semoga semuanya berjalan dengan lancar pada masa hadapan. -Aero777 (bincang) 00:00, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  10. Setuju Well, I got nothing to say rather than to support you. Remember, the burden is not on you only. It's up to all who realize the benefits of Wikipedia generally to the targeted user's language. Cheers! -- 莫哈末 (Wong) 03:20, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  11. Setuju! Walau hanya satu suara, saya harap ini bisa berguna Aris riyanto (bincang) 05:27, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
    Setuju! Semoga anda terus berusaha memajukan WBM! Haikalhacker94 06:51, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC) Pengguna ini mengundi tanpa log masuk. --Algazel (bincang) 07:07, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  12. Setuju Maaf. Saya undi lagi sekali. Original message: Semoga anda terus berusaha memajukan WBM! Haikalhacker94 hackerunited (bincang) 08:43, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  13. Setuju Pp.Mm.Cc. 09:13, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  14. Setuju! Saya sangat menyokong Anda sebagai penyelia di WBM, walaupun Anda disekat di Wikipedia Inggris, semoga WBM lebih baik lagi. --Dede2008 (bincang) 00:53, 9 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  15. Setuju Saya setuju kerana melihat ayat-ayat BM yang awak guna sangat sesuai dari lain yang lain. Semoga berjaya! Good Luck. Muhd Aiman65 (bincang) 18:56, 11 Ogos 2013
  16. Setuju Bahasa tak menjadi penghalang. Walaupun dia disekat di enWP, tak bermakna dia penyunting yang teruk. Saya sokong saudara Arctic Kangaroo menjadi penyelia. Syahir√2 (b • s) 15:29, 11 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  17. Setuju --Kurnia [ bual ] 17:13, 12 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Bantahan sunting

  1. Tidak setuju Sorry. You are still "learning" BM. It's difficult to edit page when you are "learning". Sorry JerichoNation (bincang) 12:57, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
    Never mind, no need to apologise. I understand your concern. Cheers. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 13:04, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  2. Tidak setuju. Alasan:
    • Tidak faham bahasa Melayu. Ini hambatan utama.
    • Terkait dengan beberapa isu yang melibatkan sekatan akibat ketidakcekapan. Perbincangan isu masih berlarutan di Commons dan wiki-en. Penyelia yang tak kompeten akan menimbulkan masalah pada wiki ini.
    • Tidak mengisytiharkan masalah dengan wiki/projek lain semasa mencalonkan diri. Ini saya kira tidak berniat baik.
    Mahupun calon ada membantu dengan menyambut pengguna baharu dan menangani pelaku musnah, tugas2 ini dapat dilakukan dengan baik oleh beliau sebagai pengguna biasa tanpa memerlukan akses penyelia. --Algazel (bincang) 02:51, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  3. Tidak setuju I appreciated his good intention to promote Malay Wikipedia, but the language, something that is very-very-very crucial, would be a hindrance to him. Very risky to give trust to control technical tools in Malay to people who do not fully understand it. I will vote for him if he had fully mastered the Malay language. Currently, no. SpartacksCompatriot (bincang) 09:39, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  4. Tidak setuju Saya menyokong anda bukan berarti saya sepenuhnya menyokong anda, kerana anda sendiri tak faham bahasa Melayu kerana ini WBM!!!--Hanamanteo (bincang) 14:40, 9 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  5. Tidak setuju Salam berbahagia dan Salam Wikipedia buat Arctic Kangaroo. Pertama saya mengucapkan syabas diatas minat dan sokongan serta sumbangan yang membina berterusan dalam memacu Wikipedia bahasa Melayu ke lembah jaya. Tahniah. However, I personally cannot vote yes for administrator post apply by you at this moment, because I really concern on how you can facing and solving any miscommunication with other Wikipedia users that could be some of them have a little bit or no ability to reply the messages in English. I think WBM has their own policies and guidelines that most of them write in Malay, and if you have been selected for this post, you could be needed to rewrite the policies or guidelines in Malay too. I think you should consider this first. Furthermore, don't worry, later on if you are still intend to apply for this post at another time, and at that time you are able to speak and write in Malay at least in a basic form, I will consider to vote yes for you. I'll support you always, your contributions have a great virtue. Terima kasih, salam hormat. --Smim90 (bincang) 17:34, 10 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  6. Tidak setuju - Konnichiwa dan Salam berbahagia. Saya tidak menyokong kerana merasakan kamu perlu lebih belajar bahasa Melayu sebelum menjadi penyelia. You should really understand and be able to write the best Malay before being appointed as an administrator. 您应该真正的明白马来文，能够写有趣与正确的马来文。 Jadi saya tidak dapat mengundi kamu lagi. Tetapi, semoga kamu berjaya menguasai bahasa Melayu, belajarlah bersungguh-sungguh, lagipun bahasa Melayu ini ialah "kantan na gengo" (bahasa yang mudah)~ ganbatte ya!! Salam hormat dari budak Melayu Kedah Darul Aman (saya masih seorang pelajar sekolah menengah)
    Nota tambahan: Lagipun kamu orang Singapura, pasti senang belajar bahasa Melayu. Kalau orang Amerika memang susah lah nak belajar! Saya berharap untuk pergi ke Singapura suatu hari nanti, sebelum pergi ke Jepun (lagipun AKB48 Shop ada cawangannya di Singapura!) -- やっちゃん／Muhammad Nur Hidayat／喜达亚 (bual | sumbangan | emel) 10:58, 11 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  7. Tidak setuju ...Aurora... (b) 18:06, 12 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  8. Tidak setujuPenguasaan bahasa. Lain kali, ok? "Serdang's Angel" (bincang) 08:00, 13 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  9. Tidak setuju - Poor Malay language command, that's the major issue. It's hard to perform admin tasks in Malay Wikipedia if you yourself still do not have strong competence to converse in Malay. Please improve your Malay language command up to Advanced level, then I may consider to vote Yes at that time, ok? As a Singaporean, it should not be a difficult task. Cheers. - Hezery99 (bincang) 15:15, 13 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  10. Tidak setuju Tidak buat masa ini - Mazlisaffawi (bincang) 01:18, 14 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Berkecuali sunting

  1. I think I accept both statement from "agreed" and "opposed" sides, but the most important thing is you need to make Malay as your (a bit) tongue language. Anyway, good luck in learning Malay! SNN95 12:27, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
  2. Maaf, saya masih memilih neutral kerana masalah kemahiran berbahasa anda. Salam, Naval Scene (bincang) 14:10, 15 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Catatan sunting

Soalan

Entri dipindah ke atas

Sudah mencapai 14 undian sokongan. Bagaimana sekarang? Perlu ditutup awal atau diteruskan selama seminggu?--Apli kasi 10:24, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Not at the moment. JerichoNation changed his mind and opposed, and I'm not the least bit surprised. If I didn't get it wrong, it's 14 support votes, not 14 valid votes. Correct me if wrong. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 15:26, 7 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Assuming 14 supports, no more than 4 opposes allowed... Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 03:31, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
I just used calculator to calculate. Assuming 14 supports, max is 6 opposes. Assuming 14 valid votes, max is 4 opposes. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 14:57, 9 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Current stats: 13 / 6 / 1 = 68.42% / 31.57% (✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 02:43, 11 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Current stats: 16 / 6 / 1 = 72.73% / 27.27% / x% (✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 15:21, 12 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Maaf, apabila saya membaca semula pernyataan diatas, keputusan undian tidak boleh ditutup lebih awal. Ia kenalah minimum seminggu (13 Ogos) kerana ia telah sedia maklum menyatakan paling cepat seminggu walaupun dalam tempoh yang lebih awal telah mencapai 14 undian. Saya harap anda faham tentang apa yang saya tulis ini.--Apli kasi 06:05, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Yup, I know that. A similar request took place on another RfA which I was reading yesterday, and someone said that it can't be closed earlier than 1 week, as that is to allow users who have not voted to vote. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 06:07, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Strangely enough, User:MGA73, who doesn't know Malay, is an admin here. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 15:41, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

That's strange? In my opinion, maybe he/she was the admin from the past past past election. But seriously I don't know we have one. SNN95 16:58, 8 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

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MGA73 is an admin at Commons and given local temporary access in order to deal with problematic images. He has very limited scope in his work here. --Algazel (bincang) 03:27, 9 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]


For the administrative work, I still see that the 2 biokrat can handle it. Not much vandalism occurs in a day. For me, I'm open to new changes. After all Wikipedia is open to committed users who are willing to help to provide free knowledge to the reader worldwide. Opinion is still opinion. There's no right and wrong as long as it remain in a discussion manner. Somehow this discussion can make Arctic Kangaroo realize what the challenges he will find in WBM. We hope the best from you Arctic. Don't just hop alone, hop together with other users too. =) -- 莫哈末 (Wong) 01:53, 9 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Yup. If I become admin, I would be very glad to work with the rest of you with admin tasks. In future, will expand that to articles. :) And also, it's just too bad that Amir did not respond to my offer to be an admin. :( Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 01:59, 9 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Clarification: Even if this RfA fails, I am also willing to work with all of you for the better of this wiki. I have been willing to do so all the while, so did I not work well enough with you guys? If so, I will try to improve. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 02:02, 9 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

@Ma Hzi Wong: BTW, is your surname Wong, and your name is Ma Hzi? If I'm right, can I address you as MH or Ma Hzi? Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 02:04, 9 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Tapi setahu saya kalau nak jadi penyelia kenalah menguasai 100% bahasa Melayu, kalau tak bahaya kerana boleh merosakkan wikipedia. Saya akan menyokong anda kalau anda berjaya menguasai bahasa Melayu.--Rosmah Gwiyomi (bincang) 04:06, 9 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
That's actually 100% the reason that I fail my previous (and first) RfA... Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 04:11, 9 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]


Mana keputusan? Bukan ke kalau ada 14 undian sebelum 13 Ogos boleh tamatkan undian? Undian "setuju" yg ke-17 bertarikh 13 Ogos, dan tidak ditamatkan lagi? Harap penyelia cakna pasal ni.... SNN95 04:48, 16 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Tiada cadangan agar pengundian ditutup awal. Adakah anda ingin mencadangkan pengundian ditutup? -- 莫哈末 (Wong) 06:27, 16 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Does early closure need 70%? If no, then let's just close it as successful. If yes, then I would rather let it run the full duration. Cheers guys. (✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 06:43, 16 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Peraturan tak kata pun cukup-cukup 70% untuk tutup undian (betulkan saya jika salah), hanya memerlukan 14 undian untuk tutup undian awal sebelum tarikh tutup undian awal. Jadi saya cadang undian ini ditutup. Bagaimana yang lain? SNN95 08:47, 16 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Sorry to trouble you, but can you write the first sentence (the 70% one) again in English? Thanks. (✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 08:59, 16 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
The 70% thing is if they want you to be supervisor, they must confirm 70% voting "yes" for you. SNN95 07:25, 18 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
Tujuan sebenar klausa penutupan awal ialah membolehkan pengundian yang mendapat sepersetujuan, ditutup lebih awal memandangkan keputusan telah dicapai. Bagi pengundian yang keputusannya masih belum pasti, lebih baik kekal dibuka sehingga akhir. Lebih ramai yg mengundi, lebih jelas pilihan warga Wikipedia dapat dilihat. ...Aurora... (b) 15:25, 18 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]

Keputusan sunting

Keputusan
Pelantikan penyelia
Arctic Kangaroo
Jumlah
17 10 x(2) 29
63% 37% x 100%
Hasil pengundian tidak mencapai syarat minimum 70% undian yang diberikan. ...Aurora... (b) 08:15, 21 Ogos 2013 (UTC)[balas]
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